Mystery Foto#18 Solved:A 1951 View of the LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge from the New York State Archives
Frank Femenias challenged you to solve this weekend's Mystery Foto.
Answers to the Mystery Foto questions:
- Identify the location and orientation of the Mystery Foto
Carle Place, looking southwest
- Identify the major roads
Glen Cove Road is the major road across the diagonal. The Long Isand Motor Parkway can seen across the top. The Long Island RR can be seen on the left. Old Country Road is on the far left running parallel to the LIRR.
- Which Motor Parkway structures can be seen in the Mystery Foto?
The Mineola LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge can be seen in the right corner. A blurry Old Country Road Motor Parkway Bridge can be seen on the top left of the Mystery Foto.
- Identify the major buildings
The large building was Consolidated Lithographing, soon after relocating from Brooklyn. The factory on the right was Woodhall Industries. The road between the two factories would later be named Voice Road after the Consolidated Lithograph founder Jacob A. Voice. Other buildings south of the LIRR were Laboratory Furniture and the buildings of the Smith and Hicks farms.
- This image can be found in which online digital collection?
New York State Archives Digital Collection
- What was the date of the Mystery Foto?
October 15, 1951
Comments (10)
Congrats to Greg O., Joe Oesterle, Art Kleiner, Steve Lucas, Ernie M., Frank Mendyk and Al Velocci for identifying the Carle Place location and the Mineola LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge.
Kudos to my favorite co-author Al Velocci for noting that Voice Road was named for the founder of Consolidated Lithographing.
Enjoy,
Howard Kroplick
From the New York State Archives
The Consolidated Lithographing Corporation, Brooklyn, New York was one of the largest printers of paper labels in the early 20th century. Jacob A. Voice formed the Consolidated Lithographing Corporation around 1925 by merging with Wm Steiner & Sons lithographers (1896), which was formed from Steiner & Rosenthal (1884). The Brooklyn Eagle, Sunday, July 16, 1944 contains an article relating to Jacob A. Voice. The article states that Jacob A. Voice (1884-1942) was the organizer and former president of his company. Born in Romania in 1884, he immigrated to the US at the age of three. In 1903, Voice began working for Wm Steiner & Sons & Co. and by he 1911 had organized his own company. In 1925, the name of his firm changed to Consolidated Lithographing Corporation.
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The Consolidated Lithograph building is circled. Note: Roosevlet Raceway used for the 1936 and 1937 Vanderbilt Cup Races was still standing in 1951-used for harness racing.
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View looking southwest. The LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge can be seen in the lower right corner.
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Femenias' Findings (Submitted by Frank Femenias)
A close-up of the Old Country Road Motor Parkway Bridge (Highway)
Then (1951) and Now (2017)
Comments
Identify the location and orientation of the Mystery Foto
-Looking West over Westbury/Carle Place
Identify the major roads
-In the center left to right is Glen Cove Road, the soon-to-be roadway between the two large buildings will eventually be Voice Road
Which Motor Parkway structures can be seen in the Mystery Foto?
-Mineola Rail Road bridge is the only structure since it looks like the Old Country Rd bridge was gone by the time of this picture.
Identify the major buildings
-View southwest of the Consolidated Lithograph Company. The building sits next to another identified as Woodall Industries
This image can be found in which online digital collection?
-NYS archives
What was the date of the Mystery Foto?
-October 15 1951
I need to revise my answer and include the Old Country Rd Bridge as a LIMP structure as it was still standing until the 1960’s.
The picture is over Carle Place, looking southwest. The LIRR is seen crossing over what is today Glen Cove Rd. Voice Rd heads west. Old Country Rd is seen in the upper left. The LIMP Mineola bridge crosses the LIRR in the upper middle. To the left the parkway will dip down and go under Old Country Rd. I do not know the names of the buildings. The building on the right, I believe, is still there. The small warehouse spur of train tracks, for many years, wound through the area. Up by the LIRR itself, a small portion of those tracks are still there. It took a few moments to get my bearings on this. But great picture.
View looking southwest in Carle Place.
Old Country Road top left corner, Glen Cove Road diagonal left to right in middle of photo
Old Country Motor Parkway bridge, LIRR Motor Parkway bridge
Consolidated Lithographers, Woodall Industries, Island Building Blocks, structures of the Smith or Hicks farms.
NYS Digital collection
Oct. 15, 1951
Couldn’t be easier - that huge roof - General Bronze on Stewart Avenue in Garden City - oops - NOT AT ALL! Well, then, obviously American Bosch-ARMA on Old Country Road - NAH! This is probably on the LIRR Main Line and the sidings should be a dead give-away. Trouble is - they don’t do me! The two middle close-ups aren’t! Ya got me, Frank! This one’ll be another “We’ll, duh!”, eh? Sam, III
I think we’re looking west-south-west over Carle Place with Glen Cove Road going left to right through the middle. If that’s true, then Old Country Road would be near the upper left corner. The LIMP structures would be the bridges over the LIRR and under Old Country Road. Just a guess for the date but I’m thinking around 1955. No clue for the other questions.
Looks like a Fairchild aerial, October 15, 1951 looking northeast over Carle Place, with Glen Cove running diagonally across the bottom under the LIRR.
The Macy’s Furniture Outlet is at center.
Identify the location and orientation of the Mystery Foto
- Carl Place looking about southwest.
Identify the major roads
- Glen Cove Rd is the prominent road running left to right across the center of the image. Parallel on the left is Old Country Road, and perpendicular at the top is our beloved LIMP.
Which Motor Parkway structures can be seen in the Mystery Foto?
- Overpasses on the LIRR and OCR, though the latter I can’t really make out.
- While I can’t ID the buildings nor collection nor dates I do note that there are echos of the rail sidings still evident in overhead shots, some of the property lines and building shapes were formed around these rails. I faintly remember reading of that business just south of the LIRR but remember none of the details nor where I read that.
The photo is taken over Carle place looking towards the Southwest and Mineola and Garden City.
The major roads are Glen Cove Rd, Old Country Rd, and Voice Rd. Also observed is the LIRR mainline.
The LIMP can be seen in the background with the Mineola LIRR railroad bridge and the LIMP Old Country Rd Highway bridge.
You can observe the new warehouses on the new Voice Rd.
I would date the photo sometime around 1955.
The large building is located on the west side of Glen Cove Rd. between the LIRR and Voice Rd. in Carle Place, the view is to the south west. Today the building, heavily modified, is the home of a number of retail merchants. It was built in 1950 on the Charles Wick farm for the Consolidated Lithograph Co. coming from Brooklyn. At the ground breaking ceremonies the first shovel of dirt was turned by Mrs. A. J. Voice, the widow of the founder of Consolidated. You have always wondered how Voice Rd. got it’s name, right? The Motor Parkway can be seen in the distance crossing over the LIRR, barely noticeable in the upper left, the Parkway can be seen going under Old Country Rd.
Love these old pics. They are especially great when you intimately know the location. Having grown up around here I know all about this zone. I’m shocked at that really nice farm house and land on the east side of Glen Cove Road. Amazing. All I’ve ever known there are stores and huge parking lots. Definitely no remnants here to be found! I’m sure of that.
Al, Interesting about Voice Road. Thanks for the info. I wonder how you knew that!
Al, You’re amazing!
Rats! Can’t find my old coverage of the Voice Road area so I substituted:
<http://sbiii.com/limpcns1.html#2ndvoice>.
Sam, III