Bill Bellmer, member of the Village of Garden City Planning Commission, forwarded this week's Mystery Foto. This never before published image is courtesy of the Garden City Village Archives.
Mystery Foto questions:
-Identify the car and driver.
#18 Lorraine-Dietrich driven by Arthur Duray and his mechanician Franville.
-Identify the Vanderbilt Cup Race.
1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race
-Bonus: Provide your best guess of the photo's unknown location.
Still a bit of a mystery. Based on the telephone poles, it is not the Hairpin Turn in Old Westbury. Some possible locations:
Greg O. :I’d place this at the last right-hand turn (near Red Ground Road today) at the telephone station just before the hairpin turn at Wheatley Rd/Old Westbury Rd in Old Westbury.
Steve Lucas: First, the Westbury hairpin turn but that was too severe for today’s scene. Next, from I. U. Willets Road onto Willis Avenue, but that probably was not rural enough for today’s mystery. Therefore, I think today’s mystery location is at the western section of I.U. Willets Road soon after the drivers had left Lakeville Road and headed east where there was another right-hand turn.
Ariejan Bos: The car just passed a bend to the right on a seemingly rather straight part of the circuit. There is another photo shot at exact this location (showing Luttgen with his Mercedes), but probably there will be more. The electricity poles are similar to the poles alongside Jericho Turnpike at Krug’s corner, so possibly this bend is somewhere between Krug’s corner and the finish.
Frank Femenias: The photo, I believe was taken in Williston Park on southbound Willis Ave (Mineola Ave) and Dartmouth St, at the precise 25mile course mark (a ‘calm’ stretch before the dangerous curve at Krugs). This location would be closest to Garden City where a hook curve appeared. Those spectators positioned as a human guardrail is definitely a problem! :
Congrats to Greg O., Steve Lucas, Frank Femenias, and Ariejan Bos for identifying Duray's Lorraine-Dietrich.
#18 Lorraine Dietrich
Grandstand on Jericho Turnpike in Westbury
Hairpin Turn on Wheatley Road and Old Westbury Road in Old Westbury. The story behind the most dramatic image of the Vanderbilt Cup Races.
Old Westbury Road in Roslyn. Note the parked train on the right.
Krug's Corner on Willis Avenue and Jericho Turnpike in Mineola.
Changing a tire at an unknown location.
Unknown location with telephone poles on the left.
Arthur Duray driving the Lorraine-Dietrich can be seen at the 1:18 mark of the 1906 film.
From Frank Femenias
Great location suggestions going here. Greg's Mineola Ave and Old Westbury Rd puts the utility poles at almost exact! Especially the two single bar poles on the left of the pic. The turn at the intersection though appears too sharp (approx 100deg).
The Willis Ave and Dartmouth's curve looks similar. Are there any other photos taken from same photographer that day? If a pond can be seen on the left where the cars are parked on the grass, then location most likely would be Willis and Dartmouth. The gated pond is still there today.