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“East View of Toll Gate” image was taken from southeast to northwest, I think. The 3 are pictured in the shadow cast by the afternoon sun. The youngest looking one nicknamed “Chief” couldn’t possibly be in charge of the older 2 ( unless he’s an unknown Vanderbilt ). “Van” is short for the name Vance. Maybe Al’s book has names of Kiosk collectors?

I agree with Brian, photographer standing on southeast side of kiosk looking northwest. Photographer and Chief both standing on the entrance ramp not yet paved, as seen in the opposite West view photo. Doorway faces the entrance ramp. Horses standing on Jericho Tpke, it’s about 2pm, and in the distance over the Chief’s left shoulder could be the Hillside Ave parkway bridge. Great photos!

Ok.  Please help.  I am confused.  Some pictures are of a square building, and others of a building that has either 5or 6 sides?  Are there really the same place?

I loved the photos of the LIMP going under Jericho Tpk.  When I was about 6, my family moved into a brand new home on Cromwell Road in Carle Place, just East of the abandoned LIMP, I think about 1953.  I quickly discovered the underpass to the North side of Jericho.  I was told NEVER to cross the Turnpike.  But one day a neighbor saw me on the other side and told my parents.  I told them that “I didn’t cross it, I went under it.”  I came clean and told them about my secret “tunnel”.  Bad move, then I was banned from the “tunnel”.

When I was a little older, I made another discovery.  The abandoned LIMP bridge over the LIRR.  I would watch the last of the steam locomotives as they flew underneath me.  I distinctly remember the smell of the coal smoke blasting all around me from under the bridge.  The steam engines were all retired in 1955.

Great memories…......Thank you so much.  Fred

Joe - I believe the 1909 installation of the first Mineola kiosk (top photo) was once located on today’s center median of expanded Jericho Tpke (last photo), right besides the red car passing.
The second installation was moved 50ft south in 1921.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1396j0_672hYkvbcNFJInbc1mXNJspD9f&ll=40.75468384301085,-73.62476597523755&z=20

The square building across the tpke was a transmission repair shop but previously owned by a classic car collector. Check out Walt Gosden’s comment below in this link.

http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/long_island_motor_parkway_bridge_series_27_jericho_turnpike_highway_bridge_

Fred - I enjoyed reading about your tunnel experience. I would’ve done the same. Seems the tunnel was a favorite spot for many. I wonder if you knew this kid with photo taken back in 1960?

http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/images/blog/aG15980_p1774LL3_LongIslandParkway-Tunnel_ca1960jpg_1-2.jpg

Joe O.-  After looking at both images again, I agree there not the same buildings. The ‘West View of Toll Gate’ image is 4 sided, more of a rectangle than a square. Mr. Robertson snapped the photo from the NW to the SE ( late afternoon sun beaming on the west side of the kiosk ). The ‘East View of Toll Gate’ should be a hexagon ( 6 sided ). This image was taken from the SE to the NW, and the sun beaming on the west. Don’t think my eyes are being fooling me.

Fred-  It’s always to neat to read thru memories of you and others. Thanks

Gentlemen, the kiosk does look four-sided. I’m thinking a misleading, bad angle photo not capturing all the sides. Everything else seems in place (the matching chimney stack and trim around the windows, matching roof tiles, the road sign to the west also visible in photo with car parked on ramp, the ‘09 date). I thought perhaps Harned Road at Jericho Tpke had a booth as well but that didn’t happen until 1928.

Somehow I inadvertently indicated that I was not interested in receiving comments regarding this subject.  It was a mistake as that was not my intention.  I surely would like to receive any follow up comments.  Thank you, Fred.

I don’t recognize the boy in the photo, but it is after all 59 years ago.  Wow!  The bicycle with the mudflaps could very well be mine.  I almost always had them on my bikes.  Although there is no way to prove it, can’t we just say that it’s mine?  Well, I’m going to anyway.
Fred

Analysis-  There’s 3 bikes, and the boy is swiftly following the other 2. No harm in saying your 1 of the 2 that’s ahead, Fred. Anyone notice the man & woman on the left above on Jericho Tpke, next to the railing? Possibly their parents letting them play down there, but NO tunnel travels what so ever.

Oh yeah,  Now I remember, your’e right.  I’m just to the left out of the photo.  Too bad.  But at least my bike has been made famous.  I don’t know who those people are   Fred

Brian - Eagle eyed Brian, great catch! Never noticed those two above before.

Fred -  You’ve just opened a fresh can of worms! If you’re just off this photo, I’m now wondering its origin. Could it have been yours at some point? Do you recall the boy as a childhood friend? Who was the photographer? (likely a grown up supervising the kids) I’m going to try and enhance the photo for clarity and details. I don’t know how to add color to identify the bikes but that would be a big plus.